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Yeah, hey, I wanted to talk to one of the towers down here.

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Where are you guys located?

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California?

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Nowhere in Washington.

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Okay, in Long Beach, California, we talked to one of the tower operators out here.

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Oh, yes.

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He gave us a number to call.

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We, uh, we armed a...

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Pardon?

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We armed something tonight.

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Okay, and I care about it.

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At about 820.

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Uh-huh.

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840, right in that area.

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It was flying, uh, oh, I'd say probably towards the southwest at about 200 plus.

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Uh-huh.

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All I'd add on it was, uh, it was white to orange.

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It was over the city of La Marata at about 600 feet.

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Something white fell off of it.

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Hard to tell whether it was burning or what it was.

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The object of fell went for about 75 feet and extinguished.

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We chased the thing at about 80 miles an hour.

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It ran off and left us and disappeared over the city of Norwalk, just completely blanked out.

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Oh boy.

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And that's not worth much to me, I'm sure.

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Sorry, I'm not going to give you a call.

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No, it was just all light.

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Yeah, it was, like I said, it was white light.

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It was no navigation lights on it, as far as the red or green type thing.

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But it was white primarily.

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We are coming towards us.

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It passed probably about a quarter of a mile to a half mile in front of us.

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That's where we picked up the estimate of speed and we were in an aircraft at the time.

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That's where we had the altitude on it.

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Okay.

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Tell me about the other sightings.

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Yeah, in case somebody didn't call you, there was just a sighting about, I'd say, 20 minutes ago, maybe 10 minutes ago,

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over Long Beach Airport, two small white lights leaving a vapor trail,

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estimated 1500 feet, traveling eastbound, and probably, what did John say, 6,700?

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The sighting was only about 15 seconds.

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Okay.

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But on that, it might say, left vapor trails, and again, just small white light, and probably the guy saw it.

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Okay.

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Very shortly after that, I had to reach the police department.

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I called Long Beach Tower and requested whether they had UFO sightings, because apparently they had calls on it.

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We were sitting here just talking about it, and listening to our VHS, and they began to talk about it.

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Our guys were sitting around and saying, well, hell, I didn't see anything.

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I can go tell nobody about that.

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And we just listened to our VHS, and I went to the beach called the tower and said, hey, you know, have you guys had any sightings, UFOs?

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Okay.

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Now, which direction were you flying at the time?

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Okay.

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At the time we were flying, we were headed northwest.

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Uh-huh.

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That's the earlier sighting now.

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Right.

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We were headed northwest, and this thing was coming from the northeast.

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Okay.

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I'd say probably, well, I don't know, I could tell you a degree wise, maybe an 80 degree type thing.

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Do you think you have any defined shape to it?

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No, nothing that, and I'm sorry I didn't hear it with the light now, because it's been a shape, I wasn't able to see it.

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Okay.

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But we saw the thing coming, thinking it was an airplane coming into Florida Airport, until the thing started to pass in front of us.

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And I saw the zombie fall off, and I'd like to say it was totally white, like real bright, like magnesium burns.

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Yes.

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And about that time, I told my partner, hey, turn around and take a look at that.

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And the thing just ran off and left us.

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It accelerated and ran off and left us.

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Maintained it, it maintained a pretty good altitude, about 600.

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I didn't see anything go down.

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It didn't go towards Portland, but headed towards the city of Norwalk.

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And right about over the city of Norwalk, it just completely vanished, all the white dye on it.

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Okay.

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Do you have any estimate on your exact location when you saw that?

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Yeah, our exact location would have been just about left and well in Kalima.

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Okay.

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How long did you have that under observation?

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I would say for no more than maybe about 15 seconds.

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Okay, did that thing deviate from its course at all?

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No, it appeared to maintain its course.

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Okay, horizontal?

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Horizontal, right.

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Okay.

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How's your sky conditions there tonight?

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We have an inversion layer at about a thousand foot.

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About a thousand foot.

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And it's foggy, but not that bad tonight.

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You look out of the clear.

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Yeah, not as bad as only Normie can get.

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Okay.

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The second sighting was by a person standing on the ground along the airport.

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Uh-huh.

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Two bright lights.

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By the way, before our camping goes on, is this number toll-free?

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Pardon?

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Is the number we call this a toll-free number?

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No, sir.

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Oh, we should be a little hurt.

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Well, this is a good time for making calls anyway, 60% off.

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Oh, there we go.

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Can we get your name?

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Uh, hey, I'll tell you, we're a police agency out here.

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We really hesitate to do it behind our brass.

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Uh-huh.

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You got to understand that one.

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Oh, sure.

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Okay, sir, what's your phone number down there?

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Uh, I hinted they didn't give you that too.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry, you know, we work for a very weird captain.

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We really do.

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I'm really, I'm sorry about that.

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It's a great long beach tower that's working right now.

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Could probably give you about as much as any.

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He doesn't see the lights that came over.

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I see.

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But he's the one that gave me your phone number on it.

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Okay, great.

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Is that thing?

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Yeah, I like to say I'm sorry to do that.

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I really am.

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But yeah, we're a weird captain.

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I really do.

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Well, could we get back to you at your home phone?

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Yeah, there you can do it.

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Okay.

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And if you have to do it in the future, why just call us, collect.

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Okay, we'll do.

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What is this airport?

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No, it's a private scientific organization.

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Oh, very good.

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Yeah, we're working, we cover the entire North American continent.

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What's your organization?

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Phenomena Research.

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Oh, very good.

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Well, okay, I hope it does some good for you.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay.

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Bye.

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We understand you people had some UFO activity over there tonight.

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Can you give us anything on it?

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Well, you sure got a hold of that quick.

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In fact, our helicopter crew saw one at about 3, was it 315?

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Shelling?

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Yeah, about 315.

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They, let's see, the pilots said he saw it coming on about a 40 to 60 degree heading,

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which he said it came from the southwest horizon to the northeast horizon.

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Uh-huh.

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And he said it was two, they were like in formation,

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although one was a little ahead of the other, left kind of a blue glow as it went along,

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but it wasn't a long, real long tail.

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He said it looked like two teardrops more or less because of the way they were going to move in so fast.

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I see.

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But he said it covered from the pilot side of the windshield to the observer side of the windshield,

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and he said about five seconds, he said the speed was just unbelievable, just remarkable.

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Did he feel they were fairly low?

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No, he thought the altitude was fairly high on it.

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He said it wasn't quite from horizon to horizon, he described it more as from one end of the windshield to the other,

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which is pretty close to horizon to horizon though.

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Yes.

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And he said it was just unbelievably quick.

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Okay.

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If you hold on a second, let me check out the heliport and see if they've left yet,

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they went down a while ago, I don't know if they put the bird to bed yet.

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Okay.

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Okay, hold on.

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Apparently just left, they don't enter the phone, so they're probably out on the road right now.

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And he's our, probably our most senior pilot, he's got the most hours with us.

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Okay.

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And his observer's name is, and they both made the observation.

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And we'd like to hear from them as possible.

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Okay, we'll do.

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They felt it was fairly important too, we went ahead and cut a call on it and logged it out so that there would be a record of it also.

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Very good, thank you very much.

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Okay, thank you sir.

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Bye.

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Hello.

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Good morning.

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Hi, how are you?

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Fine, and you?

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Oh, pretty good.

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We understand you saw something tonight.

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How about that, huh?

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Okay, would you like to describe it?

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Yeah, it's, we were flying on my cop and we were flying patrol and we sighted two, similar to falling stars,

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they were not falling stars.

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They were, they were in formation and they went all the way across our windshield, which is probably about 7-8th of the entire horizon.

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And that was about it.

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But it was quite exciting.

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Okay, now as a pilot, do you have any estimate of size of these things?

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No, I do not.

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They were high, they were very high and very fast, very fast.

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They covered the horizon, I estimate we watched them for about 4 seconds.

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And in other words, they, there were so many reasons why they're not falling stars, because I've been flying too long to, you know, be any kind of thinking about they were falling stars.

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They were in formation, one was ahead and the other one was kind of like a wingman off to the right, a little bit, you know, right rear type thing.

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Yes.

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And both of them were identical in brightness, size, shape, speed, direction, everything was identical.

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They were definitely in formation and they just, they were kind of, they were getting it out, I'll tell you.

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Did these things just move out of your sight or did they fade out?

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That was kind of strange. To me, they kind of, they went across the sky and then just, last they just disappeared.

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It wasn't like they just poofed, it just, they just did not continue.

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They didn't go all the way down on the horizon, they disappeared while they were in the sky.

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But they, you know, I've just contributed that to just getting it so fast.

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Okay, was that disappearance abrupt?

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Yes, it seemed to be abrupt, that's a good word for it.

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Okay.

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In which direction were you looking at the time?

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We were almost due north and they were, we kind of turned their way afterwards all over.

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We kind of, I figured that somebody might be interested so we kind of re-charted them.

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They were going on about a 50 degree, somewhere about a 50 degree heading across the sky.

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A level flight?

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Similar, yeah, level, yeah, I would say that they were going the same as the horizon.

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Okay, and they were what color?

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Both of us talked it over and we both feel that they were, it was a kind of a light blue.

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It wasn't a flame, it wasn't a white, like a falling star, it was not like a falling star.

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They were kind of a light blue and neither one, for the speed they were going,

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another reason why they weren't falling stars is because of the speed they were going,

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they didn't leave a long enough tail.

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There was a fairly short trail behind them considering their speed and it was a long trail,

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but not as fast as they were going it.

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It should have had a longer tail on it, so, kind of a light blue.

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He thinks light blue to gray, to me it would be a glowing light blue.

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Okay, did you have tinted windows in the copter?

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No, the glass that we saw them out of was not tinted.

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Clear, okay.

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Clear glass.

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Did you have to look up at all to see those?

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No, while they were, they were slightly up, they were probably on a 10 degree upward from us,

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they were about 10 degrees up, but no it wasn't, they weren't right across in front of us.

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They were up there, we definitely know that they were real high,

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but they went across our horizon, right across our windshield.

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Okay, could you make an estimate of size by comparing it with something?

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No, I really can't, they were just, I don't have any way to figure out how high they were,

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they were high, they were definitely high, but there's no way to estimate size.

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Okay, what was the exact time of that?

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I think about 315, 03, 1 time.

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And you felt that was just for how long?

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I think we saw him for about 4, he thinks about 4 to 5 seconds, I think about 4 seconds, which is about coming.

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And you would have ruled out the immediate or large meteors?

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Oh, definitely, absolutely, I mean even if it would have been one of them,

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number one there's just no way that two meteors are going to fall side by side in formation,

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exact, I mean both sides were exactly the same, both of them were exactly the same appearance.

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And I've seen so many falling stars, I have about, I have over 5,000 hours of flying,

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and I've seen so many falling stars and they were not falling stars,

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they were not bright enough to be a falling star, and they were just identical,

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and they were definitely, you know, they were in formation, which is just,

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all these years and there's obviously something like that.

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Now when they came into your view, was it something that you felt just moved into your view

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or did it just suddenly appear there?

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I forget what we were doing, I think we were working a call or something,

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and then just out of the corner of my eye I saw him, and I pointed him out,

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and just after that he spotted him, and we just both watched him,

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and I kept, at first I meant, you know, falling star, and then I kept waiting for him to fade out like a falling star would,

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and they just kept going and going and going and going,

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and then I started realizing they were in formation, there's two of them,

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and then when they disappeared we stopped and went, we have just seen a UFO.

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Yeah, okay, and let's see, is this the first time you've ever seen anything like this?

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Yes, yes, yes.

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I've been a guy for 11 and a half years, and I've been flying for about 6 and a half of that.

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I've never seen anything like it, and the only two explanations could have been

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that somebody could even argue with us about what the falling stars,

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of which they were definitely not, and then another thing might be a jet airplane.

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Absolutely not, they're too fast to be any kind of jet that we have,

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and a jet I don't believe would have a trail like that.

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Did you check with any of the FAA agencies there to see if they had that thing on radar?

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I called Long Beach Tower, and they kind of laughed.

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I think they thought we were kidding them or something, and I talked to them and

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I could tell that that wasn't going to get anywhere, so I just kind of let them laugh it off,

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but they were over there sleeping or something.

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Now they, I asked them if you had anybody reporting any sightings of UFOs,

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and they snickered and said no, but you're the first, and they were treating it like a joke,

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so I didn't want to push that, but I told them to go back to sleep.

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Now that was it, we had another one earlier in the city tonight,

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we had a call from the lady saw a UFO, and I asked them if they had gotten her number,

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but they evidently didn't take her number or anything else, and we checked that out naturally.

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We had a call earlier this evening from a couple pilots flying over the area,

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and they were flying around 845 or something like that, they spotted something up there.

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It's exciting, and I'm one of these people that, I'm very open minded to this kind of stuff,

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and I don't say I believe in them, but I definitely think that a person has to be pretty narrow minded to believe that

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we're out here in this big ocean of air, and not be the only ones in it.

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You man did that.

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Yeah.

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How are the sky conditions?

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Clear.

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Beautiful night out here, absolutely clear, no clouds, no haze, nothing.

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Absolutely beautiful night, 60 degrees, I mean it's just beautiful.

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Great.

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So I'm just, I'm kind of thinking of anything else in there.

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Now, I can't think of anything else, it was real exciting.

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I'm always glad I finally saw something like that.

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Well we sure appreciate you talking to us, and if you see anything in the future while I give us a call,

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I'll collect, this line is collect for any police officers who are seeing things and reporting.

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What do you do with this now?

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Well of course we'll hope that other witnesses will come through, and then we'll evaluate the information

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and run it through a data reduction system, and catalog that into our data bank,

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and use it for our research programs.

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I know one of our units said that he had about four people that saw the same thing we did.

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So you know, we didn't push that either.

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And I thought somebody said that a couple more of our units had seen him.

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So you might, I don't know if that would do you any good, but I know we saw him,

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and everybody was kind of curious, and everybody was kind of chuckling us at first until I realized that we were serious.

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And both of us discussed this, and we definitely know that they were not anything,

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but they were, that's everything it could be.

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It's just the conditions there was, no way.

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Were you directly over Huntington Beach at the time?

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Yes, we were.

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Okay.

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Right about the middle of the city, going almost in the same direction as they were just a little bit,

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and they just cut all the way across.

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Okay, then would you say they were coming in from the ocean?

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They were, I kind of described it at first from, yeah, they were coming in from the ocean,

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and they were about a southwest to a northeast attitude,

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and about, and then we kind of went on the heading between 40 and 60 degrees, and they were flying.

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Okay, thanks a lot, Jim.

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Well, thank you very much.

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All right, have a nice day.

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Goodbye.

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Yeah, this is Sargenton, San Ana Police Department.

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Yes, sir.

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How many calls have you had tonight?

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Quite a few.

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They were neat, eh?

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I was just talking to some of the people down here, I'm in Southern California.

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Yes.

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Okay, well, I was talking to, I started calling around to some of the different control towers,

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talked to LAX, their control tower, the controllers there said he didn't see them,

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but he had two reports on him from a pilot, and then I talked to Ontario, and he hadn't

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heard anything, but the military base, when I was trying to come up with a number, this

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UFO said the number, military, said March Air Force Base spotted them, and all the police

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departments in between here and God only knows where.

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So, how far north did they, did you get your calls from?

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Well, we got some out of, far north of Marin County.

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That's what we heard.

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We heard about 10 minutes after we saw our dispatcher inside was talking to Control 1,

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which is a centralized base, communications base for all of Orange County, and they said

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they had gotten reports of sighting in Santa Clara County, which is just south of Marin County.

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Yeah, so whatever it was, it had to be quite high.

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Oh yeah, they were, and boy were they moving.

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We saw them only for about, I would say, four or five seconds, and they were coming out of

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the south, kind of the southwest going northeast, and that was almost,

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well, from the southeast horizon to where we couldn't see them over some buildings,

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but according to this pilot that reported LAX, he saw them horizon to horizon in about 10 seconds.

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Right, we just talked to him.

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Oh, did you?

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Right.

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The pilot?

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Right, he was Huntington Beach.

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Oh, is that right?

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Yeah, they were flying their helicopter at the time.

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Police?

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Right.

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Oh, is that right?

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What did he guesstimate on altitude?

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Well, he,

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he was hard to tell.

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He wasn't going to make any estimate because he had no way of telling without knowing the

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sizes of the thing.

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Yeah, did he report two lights?

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Right.

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One at different altitude?

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Right, but he said they held their formation all the way.

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If it was a formation, it was hard to tell.

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Right.

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We never could distinguish a body or a form, but there were two lights and they were at

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different altitudes.

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You know, it was either an awfully big object with light on top and bottom or there were

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two of them.

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Uh-huh.

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Whatever.

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But I've been a police officer for 13 years and I've never seen anything like it.

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It was neat.

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I want them to come back.

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Do we get your name again?

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Yeah.

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Do I have to?

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Oh, no.

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No, no, no.

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After I did, I was sergeant with Santa Ana Police Department.

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But I had, uh, well, after I called it in just to fool around with the dispatcher, I said

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we got UFOs in the area, about three other officers called in and said, yeah, I saw them

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too.

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And the other officers standing with me at the time and we watched them.

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And apparently, talking to the military police down here, they heard on their scanners at

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the Sheriff's Office here and several other police departments or observed them.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And I wouldn't try to guesstimate on altitude either because there's no way of knowing.

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Right.

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I'm a pilot pilot.

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I fly.

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I know there isn't anything made that moves that fast, you know.

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My first thought, like I thought, was a shooting star because, and I didn't even get it out

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of my mouth.

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I realized it was and I thought airplane landing lights, you know, but then it was moving so

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fast that it couldn't have, no way it could have been an airplane.

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And, uh, it's just very unusual.

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What was your, appreciate your report?

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Sure.

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Did, uh, wake you up or?

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No, no.

401
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No, we've been up a while.

402
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Are you with the government?

403
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No, it's a private scientific organization.

404
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Oh, is that right?

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Right.

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I wasn't aware of that.

407
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Yeah.

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The government has given up their study, so we have to go it alone.

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Hmm.

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And most of it came just from California.

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Right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Thank you.

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What to, I want to write this number down.

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We couldn't find our numbers, so what do I list it as besides UFO sightings?

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Just UFO reporting center.

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Reporting center.

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Right.

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And, and, uh, are you in Seattle?

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Right.

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Mm-hmm.

422
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Okay.

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And any, any police personnel seeing things, uh, came call collected.

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They had no other means there.

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Oh, okay.

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That's good to know.

427
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Very good.

428
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Okay.

429
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Nice, how's the weather up there?

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Uh, a little cloudy.

431
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Is it?

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Yeah.

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But otherwise very mild.

434
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Well, that's not good.

435
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We need rain.

436
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Do you guys need rain?

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We needed an eastern Washington.

438
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They're ready to blow away over there.

439
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Oh, is that right?

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Well, of course, California, you know, they're rationing water in our northern part of our

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state.

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Yeah.

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It looked pretty bad for us here for a while, but it's been raining off and on for about

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three weeks now.

445
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Well, that's good.

446
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Very good.

447
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Okay.

448
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Nice talking to you.

449
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Right.

450
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Thanks a lot.

451
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You bet.

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Bye.

453
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I'll call from Punnich Police, please.

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Will you accept?

455
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Yes, ma'am.

456
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Thank you.

457
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Hello?

458
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Hi there.

459
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Hi.

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What's your version of it?

461
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Okay.

462
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We were, myself, my partner, I believe you already talked to him.

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Right.

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We're heading northbound along Golden West Street, which is north-south street in our city.

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And I believe we're about 800 feet.

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We're in a helicopter.

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And we're watching the horizon.

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And my partner was in a left-seater helicopter.

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I called my attention to two objects he saw moving across the sky.

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And I looked at them.

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They were on the left side of our helicopter bubble at that time.

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And I looked up and saw two objects, kind of a light bluish in color, a bluish glow to

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them or something.

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And they were heading all from a southwestern way to northeastern way direction.

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And very high rate of speed.

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And we had them in visual for about all around five seconds.

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They were both exactly identical in size and shape, like a teardrop with a tail on it.

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And both, one was flying just a little bit to the left, I believe, and ahead of the other.

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And they looked like they were in formation, flying across.

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And it was very odd.

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It was the first time I ever seen anything like that.

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Okay, now did you see the objects as they disappeared from your view?

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Did these things just disappear abruptly or did they just go out of sight in the distance?

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Well, they appeared to say, I'm trying to think they were, they got to my right.

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The bubble of the helicopter comes down and obscures my vision.

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So after about, I'd say four to five seconds, when they got to the right part where my vision

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is obscured by a part of the frame of the bubble, then I couldn't see them anymore.

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And that's since the word was abruptly, I didn't see them after that.

489
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Okay, would you say these things were quite high?

490
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Yeah, I'd say they were quite high.

491
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000
We couldn't make out any form to them at all, you know, like a, you know, you can make out

492
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:14,000
form, you know, the plane, even at night, you know, in normal altitudes or normal approach altitudes.

493
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000
But yeah, these were, these were quite high.

494
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Okay, now in your opinion, how long did you watch those?

495
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:28,000
I'd say between, between four and six seconds, it's, you know, hard to say exactly, but it was between four and six seconds.

496
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:36,000
They traversed the whole, our whole vision from inside a rubble, we'll get in the helicopter from left to right.

497
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Okay, but they leave in a trail that you could see?

498
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,000
Yeah, the trail was all like it was attached. It was like a tail more than a trail.

499
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Okay.

500
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000
And that's, that was what was all about them because they were identical.

501
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000
You know, the same distance, each was exactly the same.

502
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Okay, when your opinion were they flying a horizontal flight path?

503
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Oh yeah, the attitude was definitely horizontal.

504
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Okay.

505
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
Definitely parallel to the ground.

506
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Okay.

507
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000
You know, I forgot to ask his telephone number. Do you have that handy?

508
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
I don't have it handy.

509
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
I'm sure you can probably call back and get it.

510
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Yeah, sure.

511
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Okay, well I think we've got all the information we need.

512
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000
We've had quite a few calls from the Southern California area on this.

513
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Tonight?

514
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Right.

515
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000
That's really, really odd. You know, it was, it was real strange.

516
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:40,000
We had just investigated one earlier. We had just looked it off in the pad and I guess it was about 930 or there about nine o'clock.

517
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,000
And we got a radio call to respond to the array, Ohio and Edwards and our city and check for one.

518
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:55,000
And, you know, we thought at that time there was a lot of air traffic up, you know, LA still, and Long Beach is still busy with all their, you know, people coming in.

519
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,000
There's a lot of air traffic up. And we thought, well, you know, she just saw lights or something.

520
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,000
So we flew over there, looked around and said anything but a bunch of airplanes in the sky.

521
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Just forgot about it until about 315.

522
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Yeah.

523
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Okay, well we sure appreciate your calling.

524
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Okay.

525
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000
And this number is for police personnel. It is open for collect calls.

526
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Okay.

527
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
And otherwise for the general public, it's just straight dial direct.

528
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Yeah.

529
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,000
But if we get anything regarding the identification of these things, why, we'll get back to you and let you know.

530
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Yeah, I appreciate it.

531
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Okay, thanks a lot.

532
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Thank you.

533
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Bye.

534
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Yeah, my name is from Los Angeles.

535
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Yes, sir.

536
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,000
I've got the number here for UFO reporting center, right?

537
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Right.

538
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Do you guys have enough calls tonight?

539
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
We had our share from your area.

540
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Oh, okay, then I won't bother you with it.

541
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Did you see something yourself?

542
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000
No, not myself. I just reported from our aircraft.

543
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Oh.

544
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Do you have any names or involved witnesses?

545
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Believe it or not.

546
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Oh, I think it's first name.

547
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Okay, do you have a telephone number?

548
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Uh, Asian Rural Bureau.

549
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Yeah, what's Rural Bureau's phone number?

550
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Anyway, you want to copy this stuff down?

551
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Yes.

552
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Okay, at 325, 0325, it spotted what would appear to be white lights.

553
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Direction of travel is west to east, 1,500 feet, 5 to 600 miles per hour.

554
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Mm-hmm.

555
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
It's sure to be a magnesium ball.

556
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:45,000
He's sitting and trailed off a particle that dropped about 1775 feet before burning out.

557
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Okay, and he's a pilot or a observer.

558
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,000
I don't know which. I didn't ask him from our Rural Bureau that's based at Long Beach Airport.

559
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000
I see.

560
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Okay, and then he also had another sighting last night, 2045 hours.

561
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
That would be on the 21st.

562
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Okay.

563
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:13,000
It was 200 miles per hour and accelerating from northeast to southwest and disappeared on the horizon.

564
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000
That was about 200 feet. He was in a chopper at that time.

565
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
I see, okay.

566
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
And who's calling again?

567
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
This is the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

568
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
County Sheriff, okay.

569
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Well, we sure appreciate this information.

570
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Okay, did you get that phone number?

571
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Yes, sir.

572
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Thank you very much.

573
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Okay, bye.

574
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Hello, Bureau Sergeant.

575
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Yes, sir, Sergeant.

576
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
I'm calling for the UFO Reporting Center in Washington.

577
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Right.

578
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,000
We talked to your communication center earlier this morning and they said that a couple of

579
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000
your pilots had been up and seen the two objects that went over California.

580
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Yeah, that's correct.

581
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
And we're trying to get the party's names and home telephone numbers now.

582
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,000
He said that one had the last name of...

583
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
That's right.

584
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
You want a hold on for a second? He's here.

585
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Sure.

586
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
All right.

587
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Good morning. This is the UFO Reporting Center in Washington.

588
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Yes.

589
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,000
I wonder if we could get a description of the objects you saw this morning.

590
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Yeah, hey, are you the man...

591
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Do you want to do it at about three o'clock?

592
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Yes.

593
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Okay, I'm the one that calls you.

594
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Oh, I see.

595
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000
You could put my name on it now.

596
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
I couldn't do it.

597
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Okay, that's quite an overlap there.

598
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Well, yeah, it was.

599
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Like I said, you know, I was head of this morning.

600
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000
The rest of this thing went down and then it became official as far as we were concerned.

601
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Yeah.

602
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
And my captain really is, thank you.

603
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Yeah, hey, okay.

604
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
You have the two we have this morning, right?

605
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Right.

606
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Okay, what was your first name?

607
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Theodore.

608
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Theodore, okay.

609
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
And deputy sheriff of the county in Los Angeles, and all that sort of thing.

610
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Yeah.

611
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Okay, and I gave you the time this morning. It was about 2045.

612
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Right.

613
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Right in there.

614
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Right, okay.

615
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
So we got the object that fell from it.

616
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Right.

617
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Now that somebody from my department had again further called you then, I assume.

618
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Yeah, the communications center.

619
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
That was a brilliant rep.

620
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Right.

621
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Okay, he advised you we had another sighting at one of our prior stone parking.

622
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
And it's sighted it.

623
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Right.

624
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Now, apparently as we tied that down time-wise, he said it was 0320.

625
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
My partner and I had the one at 945.

626
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
We had the other pilot.

627
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:23,000
I told you about out of here, sighted it somewhere around 3, I don't know, 330, 325 somewhere in there.

628
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
We were vague on the times we didn't really look at at the time.

629
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Right, okay.

630
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000
So it was probably the same sighting just coming further this way.

631
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Okay.

632
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:40,000
The firestone unit had the same two lights, but he said the rear one was trailing to the right.

633
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000
You know, like half of the type formation.

634
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Yes.

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Did he also tell you that they had a shape to it?

636
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000
No.

637
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
Yeah, it was ball-shaped.

638
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Just a regular ball.

639
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Yeah.

640
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Oh, that's interesting.

641
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Do you guys really get many sightings like this?

642
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Oh, yes.

643
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Yeah.

644
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Not so much objects that were seen over such a wide area.

645
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000
Most of this stuff is really confined, you know.

646
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Yeah.

647
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,000
But something like this, seen over a wide area, we don't get anything too often.

648
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,000
I understand from our communication start that it was seen, you know, from Sacramento on down on a civil defense loop.

649
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Uh-huh.

650
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Well, that had to be a couple of high fliers.

651
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Huh.

652
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Like I say, with the exception of that one that came down through my partner and I, that thing was, we were looking at it at 600.

653
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Yeah.

654
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
That was, it was weird.

655
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
How about objects with blue flashing lights on?

656
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
You want to cross that very often?

657
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Yes.

658
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
All right, we've had numerous reports in the industry area in the past.

659
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:51,000
In fact, we had one, I couldn't give you a date or time on it, but it was a few months ago on Long Beach, not Long Beach, but L.A. policeman and his son came into the station

660
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,000
and gave a location and said, hey, you know, this thing's coming down out there and it's got flashing blue lights on it.

661
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,000
So they got a hold of our helicopter over there, you know, and asked where they were, and, you know, they were quite away from it.

662
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
And they told them what they had.

663
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,000
And this guy from LAPD says, hey, I had to come in and tell you, I knew I couldn't call you, wouldn't believe me.

664
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
But I didn't know blue flashing lights were predominant, these things.

665
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Yeah, and then there's a combination of the colors red, blue, green, white, uh, just, it all fits a pattern.

666
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000
But there's a wide variety.

667
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000
How many of you can get in all of college? You guys can almost put one pattern one way all the way across.

668
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Yeah, well, we like now like the one, uh, early this morning, why we would just plot the course of this thing and see if we can't come up with something.

669
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Yeah, beautiful.

670
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000
So, you guys private organization or government financing?

671
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,000
No, it's private, so funded, uh, no, we can't get any government financing. They're out of the business completely.

672
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
I always figured they said they work.

673
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Yeah.

674
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
What am I talking to you by the way? Uh, Robert Gribble.

675
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Robert, hold on, let me get a pencil here, would you?

676
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Yeah.

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Okay, listen, we say anything else, we'll give you a call in.

678
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
And you've got our number, right?

679
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Right.

680
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Okay, and remember any, uh, police officers reporting sightings can call collect.

681
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Beautiful.

682
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Okay, thanks.

683
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Thank you much.

684
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Right.

685
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Robert.

686
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Yes, uh, this is Kent Pierce calling KCRA television in Sacramento, California.

687
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Yes, sir.

688
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Uh, where are you located?

689
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Seattle, Washington.

690
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Seattle.

691
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
I didn't know what 206 was.

692
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
I got your number from the FAA tower here at Stockton Field.

693
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Yes.

694
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
In, uh, Central California.

695
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,000
We had a reported sighting, uh, at 5.30 this morning, uh, did you receive a report of that?

696
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000
5.30?

697
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
5.30 this morning, Pacific time.

698
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Sixth San Joaquin County deputies, uh, sheriff's deputies, uh, three different locations each in teams of two, uh, indicated that they had seen you.

699
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:53,000
They had seen a hovering light form and it was moving from west to east at high speed.

700
00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:07,000
It hovered and it moved and, uh, two other deputies indicated it was from 50 to 100 feet long with a black border around it, climbing at about a 25 degree incline until it disappeared from sight.

701
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
And that was firmed up by one other pair of deputies.

702
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:19,000
We've got three different deputies at, uh, three teams of deputies, all of whom reported sighting this thing at 5.30 this morning right here in Central California.

703
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
I'm gonna be tearing the hole. We hadn't heard a thing about it.

704
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:30,000
The FAA is about 80 miles east of San Francisco and 50 miles south of Sacramento.

705
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,000
So, uh, and the feedback that we've gotten from this apparently, uh, I've checked with the FAA.

706
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
They don't acknowledge that any such report was made to them.

707
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Either the FAA main office here in Stockton or the tower.

708
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000
And they gave me your number and that's why I'm reporting to you.

709
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Uh, do you have a number for the National Air Raid Warning and Alert Service in, or system in Sacramento?

710
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000
No, sir. I don't.

711
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,000
They have a hotline directly to that office and all they do is pick it up and it rings at the other end.

712
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
And they reported it through that system.

713
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,000
And I have not checked with Sacramento information yet to see if they have a listing for that phone.

714
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,000
What I'm trying to do is trace this down and, uh, because this is news.

715
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000
It was sighting by three different teams of deputies in three different locations throughout this county.

716
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,000
And the, uh, inference was that it was seen in other counties as well. Is this the first you've heard of it?

717
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Well, in that particular area, uh, with your time factor, yes, but we were, uh, flooded with calls by, uh, two large objects, uh, over the greater Los Angeles and, and Orange County area about 330.

718
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Hmm.

719
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,000
I don't know whether there's any tie in there or not, but, uh, yours is a personal.

720
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
National aviation?

721
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Right. And all of those were reported by police personnel also.

722
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000
LA Basin, 330 p.m.

723
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Right.

724
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
And it was pretty widespread throughout that area.

725
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Right.

726
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Huh.

727
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
And they picked it up here at 530.

728
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Hmm.

729
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Fascinating.

730
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:17,000
And down there it was, uh, two, uh, glowing objects moving southwest to northeast at a high rate of speed on a, uh, level flight trajectory.

731
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Southwest and northeast until they went disappeared over the horizon.

732
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Right.

733
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Uh-huh.

734
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Southwest and northeast at high speed.

735
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Right.

736
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Until they disappeared, huh?

737
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Yeah, it's fascinating.

738
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Of course, you probably get, uh, almost daily reports of this kind of stuff.

739
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Oh, yes.

740
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Hmm.

741
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000
What do you think it is?

742
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Well, it's really too hard to tell.

743
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
We're trying to evaluate the information right now.

744
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,000
As far as the, uh, Southern California event is concerned.

745
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Yeah, my name is Kent Pierce.

746
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
I'm with KCRATV Channel 3.

747
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
We're the NBC affiliate here in Sacramento and Stockton area.

748
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Uh-huh.

749
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000
I work out of the Stockton office.

750
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
And I just have to come across this quite accidentally.

751
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Uh, I make the morning rounds as if we're by phone with all the law enforcement agencies.

752
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,000
And, uh, wasn't much going on last night in the county except this, uh, one thing that seemed to capture everybody's attention.

753
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000
The fact that three different teams at three different locations all cited the same thing.

754
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Well, you know, different versions of the very thing at about the same time.

755
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,000
And they all went ahead and reported, uh, eroded on their, uh, summary reports for their shift.

756
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:35,000
And, uh, if you need any more information, you can talk to Lieutenant at the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Department in Stockton.

757
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,000
And, uh, I don't think he has any more information on what I've been able to give you,

758
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
but you can think of something you need to ask.

759
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000
The six, uh, deputies, the three different teams, uh, were graveyard.

760
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,000
They are now all, uh, uh, home and bed. They work the graveyard.

761
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,000
So unfortunately I can't get to them. I'd like to have their eye witness account of this thing.

762
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Uh-huh.

763
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000
But, uh, now you know as much about it as we do down here.

764
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
I was hoping you could shed some new life.

765
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
But this is the first report you've had of it.

766
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Right.

767
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Okay.

768
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Yeah, I'm sure sorry I can't give you more information.

769
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Yeah.

770
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Now that's the time window though. It's 5.30 a.m. and they all, uh, they all correspond on that same thing.

771
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,000
One even went so far as to describe it as 50 to 100 feet long with a blackboard or whatever the hell I'd be.

772
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Uh-huh.

773
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And, uh, so as I say, uh, to whom I speak.

774
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Robert Gribble.

775
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Mr. Gribble?

776
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
All right.

777
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:31,000
And, uh, I assume that, uh, your attentions are tuned nightly to all kinds of these things.

778
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Yes, they are.

779
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Do you ever get any daylight settings?

780
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Very few.

781
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Very few.

782
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
I'd say that one-tenth to one-percent almost.

783
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Yeah.

784
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
What is this, uh, Aurora activity or something?

785
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Or have you been able to determine?

786
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Uh, are you speaking of last night's events?

787
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
No, not last night, but I mean in general.

788
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
What do most of these amount to?

789
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:59,000
Well, we have, uh, a good percentage of, uh, high altitude lights and that's all they report is just plain lights.

790
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
And then we have, uh...

791
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
What kind of natural phenomenon?

792
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,000
It could be.

793
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Yes.

794
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Some fall into the natural phenomenon, yet some fall into the, uh, UFO category.

795
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Not explainable.

796
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Right?

797
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:19,000
They have the same, uh, motions and flight characteristics and so forth as the objects that are actually described as vehicles.

798
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:29,000
But, uh, of course we, our top priority cases are those where the objects make very close approaches to the witnesses and they can actually describe a vehicle.

799
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
They can see the superstructure.

800
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Hmm.

801
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
And that's what we're really interested in.

802
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Yeah, that's pretty heavy.

803
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Yeah, what is your organization?

804
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Uh, this is not the old Air Force thing.

805
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
They have abandoned that, haven't they?

806
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
They have abandoned their studies.

807
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
There is no federal agency on, uh, UFO investigation anymore.

808
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,000
I see.

809
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000
What is it, privately funded?

810
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Right.

811
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000
I see.

812
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,000
And what do you call yourself?

813
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,000
It's phenomena research.

814
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Phenomenal research.

815
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Right.

816
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Phenomenal research.

817
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Phenomenal research and that's a privately funded organization in Basin, Seattle.

818
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Right.

819
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Okay.

820
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Mr. Grubbel, thank you very much.

821
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
I'm sorry I couldn't give you more information.

822
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
I'm sorry you couldn't give me the...

823
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Well, if we come up with anything new, we'll let you know.

824
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Yeah, all right.

825
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000
If you feel like it and you do come up with anything, well, don't run your phone bill out.

826
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Call us to like.

827
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Uh, you can call me here at, uh, I'll tell you what, why don't you call the home station, which is in Sacramento.

828
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000
I'm working at the Valley Bureau out of Stockton.

829
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
It's at the direct line to our newsroom.

830
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,000
As I say, we're the NBC affiliate, uh, for the Sacramento Stockton Market.

831
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
And, uh, we're interested in this.

832
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
If you come up with anything on this, give us a collect call.

833
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000
I'd appreciate it.

834
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
We'll do.

835
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Thank you, Mr. Grubbel.

836
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Right.

837
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Bye-bye.

838
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Yes, I'm calling for the UFO reporting center in Washington.

839
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
We understand you had some activity in the sky down there early this morning.

840
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
I wonder if you could give us any information.

841
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
This is Des on the ground, Bill.

842
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Yes, sir.

843
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
I'm calling for the UFO reporting center in Washington.

844
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Uh-huh.

845
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,000
I wonder if you could give us any information on the UFO reports in your area early this morning.

846
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Okay.

847
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000
It just so happens that I have one of the officers sitting right in here that observed it.

848
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000
I'll let him talk to you.

849
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Thank you very much.

850
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000
You're welcome.

851
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Just a second.

852
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Okay.

853
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000
I'll get him off of.

854
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Hello, sir?

855
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Yes, sir.

856
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Yes.

857
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
I understand you.

858
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000
You agree?

859
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000
I understand you saw something in the sky this morning.

860
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Yes.

861
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
I wonder if we could get a description of that.

862
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Well, approximately all we could see that we really could tell if it were that there

863
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
was two distinct lights.

864
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Uh-huh.

865
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,000
There could be two different objects.

866
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:38,000
And all we could actually see on it would be like a giant light bulb in the sky.

867
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
That's what it looked like.

868
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,000
I see.

869
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,000
We could see nobody, no form to the object itself.

870
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
And there were two of those?

871
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Yes.

872
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,000
Okay.

873
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
I'm about what time you spot those?

874
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Uh, this could be about 5.15.

875
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
5.15, okay.

876
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,000
And we had them in sight for probably 10 minutes at the most.

877
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Okay.

878
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Now which direction were you looking at the time?

879
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Okay.

880
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000
We were looking in a west really direction west, okay.

881
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
And which direction were they traveling?

882
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000
East.

883
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Southeast.

884
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
East, southeast, okay.

885
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:23,000
How are the sky conditions there at the time?

886
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Clear.

887
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
It was dusk or dawn.

888
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Some were just coming up.

889
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
And that's when we lost contact with them.

890
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Invisible contact is when they disappeared into the sunlight.

891
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Okay.

892
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Now did these actually come out of the northwest sky or western sky?

893
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Well, we were actually parked for a few minutes and we were looking into it.

894
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
And then we were in the west really direction.

895
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
And these two objects, they appeared to be morning stars.

896
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,000
They were so loaded, they were rising and so bright.

897
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Uh-huh.

898
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
I was looking at them earlier and that's just what I assumed them to be.

899
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
And suddenly they started moving.

900
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
And they possibly could have been moving all the time.

901
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000
But at one point we were able to see distinct movement.

902
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
One object moved up closer to the other object.

903
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,000
And then they both started accelerating.

904
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Speed moving in an easterly direction.

905
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Okay.

906
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Now were they leaving a trail of any kind?

907
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000
No, as I said, all we could see were lights on no vapor trail or anything.

908
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Okay.

909
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000
And the west sky was still very dark.

910
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Uh-huh.

911
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Okay.

912
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Now did they follow a straight flight path or did they deviate from their flight path?

913
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
No, I said they were deviating.

914
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,000
It looked like they were rising in heights and coming down.

915
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,000
And at one point two objects were fairly close together.

916
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
And the light appeared to go out on one object.

917
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,000
And we still could maintain visual contact with second object.

918
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,000
The first object just disappeared for approximately maybe 30 seconds even.

919
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
And then it came back into view again.

920
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,000
So it had turned in another direction and the light wasn't shining our way anymore.

921
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,000
I say, okay.

922
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Can you compare the size of those with anything?

923
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Um.

924
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Say like an article held at arm's length, a small article.

925
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Well all I can really say is that when we saw them they appeared like they'd be the size of the planet.

926
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Uh-huh.

927
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,000
From the distance they were.

928
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Okay.

929
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Okay.

930
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Would you say that those were considerable distance away?

931
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,000
What is that?

932
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Is that something we saw them?

933
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Right.

934
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Yes, I would say so.

935
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Okay.

936
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,000
And did you actually watch them until they disappeared in the distance?

937
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Okay.

938
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Uh, Sergeant, just in four minutes.

939
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Also another officer available.

940
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,000
We saw the objects last night too who could speak to you if you would be interested in that.

941
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Oh, very much so, yes.

942
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Okay.

943
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
And what was your question again?

944
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Uh, did you watch the objects until they actually disappeared?

945
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Yes.

946
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Yes.

947
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Okay.

948
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Did you notice any unusual aircraft activity in that area?

949
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,000
None at all.

950
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,000
There was nothing else in this guy moving at the time.

951
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Okay.

952
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,000
And in a minute I'm going to try and transfer you to the other officers on another line.

953
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,000
So if we get cut off you can get back to us at this number.

954
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Have you ever seen one of these before?

955
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
No, I haven't.

956
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Were you alone at the time?

957
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000
No, I wasn't.

958
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,000
I was with the deputy.

959
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Okay, there'll be two witnesses there.

960
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Okay, I guess I got just about all I need.

961
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Okay, hang on.

962
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
In a second I'll find out where all these transferings are.

963
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Thank you.

964
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Alright.

965
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Yeah, which number was that?

966
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Okay.

967
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
I'm here for the transferings over here.

968
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Okay, I'm going to try to transfer you now.

969
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,000
Okay.

970
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,000
And you'll be talking to deputy, or deputy.

971
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Thank you.

972
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Alright.

973
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Hello.

974
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Hello.

975
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
We understand you saw an object in the sky this morning.

976
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Yeah, I don't know if I reported it yet, but we did say what.

977
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Okay, I wonder if I could get a description.

978
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
This is the UFO reporting center in Washington.

979
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Okay.

980
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Uh, what we, uh, my partner, we heard somebody over,

981
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
one of the other officers was on here,

982
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
they talked about the lights and the right.

983
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
It was about 5 o'clock in the morning, so they asked,

984
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
I started to look over and say it's not too light.

985
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000
Uh-huh.

986
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
It was just about, uh, we picked this up on the right.

987
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
I didn't see these two lights.

988
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000
So I looked over there, I didn't see anything.

989
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000
We pulled out a pair of binoculars and looked over there,

990
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
looked like the remains of a vapor trail.

991
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Oh, just visible, really, I can't give you a,

992
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
it's always our short remains of what looked like a vapor trail.

993
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
I see.

994
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Okay.

995
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Then we kind of kept watching this thing and we noticed that the vapor trail was,

996
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,000
it was actually growing to a certain extent or going getting longer,

997
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000
like some kind of plane or something was flying in this,

998
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
it's kind of hard to explain,

999
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
but what we observed then was this,

1000
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000
what was the remains of a vapor trail,

1001
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
which either this, whatever it was, was hovering for it,

1002
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,000
was coming at it, so the vapor trail didn't get any longer.

1003
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Yes.

1004
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
All of a sudden, man, the vapor trail,

1005
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,000
started to get longer, like the plane was going almost straight up in the air.

1006
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Straight up.

1007
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Right.

1008
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:14,000
All of a sudden, it kind of turned and went parallel to the horizon

1009
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
in kind of an old, more or less, a 45 degree angle.

1010
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,000
With a straight vapor trail that was black in color,

1011
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
and we could see when we put the glasses on this thing,

1012
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,000
as it was moving up, we could see some type of object.

1013
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,000
You know, it's obviously either a plane with a vapor trail or whatever it was,

1014
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
it was going to take off.

1015
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
We had other jets in the area that we could see,

1016
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,000
and it didn't seem to be the same type of vapor trail or anything on that order.

1017
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Yes.

1018
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000
My partner saw a light, I don't know if I'll give you a very good description,

1019
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
actually what we saw was not a,

1020
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000
an object itself was more or less the remains or what the object was doing.

1021
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000
It looked to me to be more like a rocket

1022
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
than it did to be an airplane type thing.

1023
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000
It kind of reminded me of when the,

1024
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
or when they fired off the moon shot,

1025
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
and they showed the pictures from the long distance away.

1026
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Yes.

1027
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
And it would go straight up, and then it kind of hanged,

1028
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,000
and it hit off, and instead of going straight up for a while,

1029
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
it kind of hanged off, and it would go out of sight.

1030
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
And I had to, actually the same exact impression on this thing,

1031
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,000
it didn't seem to be more, it seemed to be more like a rocket taking off

1032
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000
than it did to be a dead airplane.

1033
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Okay, which direction were you looking at this time?

1034
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Okay, let me get my variant.

1035
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000
We're in the town of Burnala,

1036
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:37,000
and we were looking at the almost,

1037
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,000
the east and a little bit south.

1038
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Okay, and which direction was this vapor trail moving?

1039
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Okay, we first thought it was almost stationary,

1040
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000
then the vapor trail went south,

1041
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,000
and of course up,

1042
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
and it was almost directly south.

1043
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Okay.

1044
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,000
And as near as we could,

1045
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,000
I couldn't give you an idea,

1046
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
it moved steady across the horizon.

1047
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Now this is the thing that kind of throws me off being a jet airplane at some time,

1048
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
was that usually when the impression I had,

1049
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,000
it was awfully long waved away.

1050
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Yes.

1051
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
In a plane, in my own feeling,

1052
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
you see these things from that time distance,

1053
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,000
you see the vapor trail, but the plane is moving fairly slow, it appears.

1054
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
But this thing went straight up,

1055
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
and as it was moving away,

1056
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000
it was just a steady movement,

1057
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
and almost like it was a lot closer than it was,

1058
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
if you're in what I say.

1059
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,000
It seemed to me it was going on an awfully fast rate of speed,

1060
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
if it was a jet airplane.

1061
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
It's kind of a rough thing to describe on the phone.

1062
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Okay, but how long did you watch that?

1063
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Well, we watched this,

1064
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
what we saw was a remains of the vapor trail,

1065
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000
we watched for somewhere 3 to 5 or 6 minutes,

1066
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
and we just thought, like we said, it was just the remains,

1067
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,000
and we just kind of kept watching it out of curiosity.

1068
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Then all of a sudden, it's when the vapor trail actually started to grow larger,

1069
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,000
indicating that whatever was making the trail, it was still there.

1070
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,000
And then it just went,

1071
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,000
it was due south, and we lost sight of it.

1072
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Okay, and that was about, you figure, around 5 o'clock?

1073
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Right, shortly after 5 a.m.

1074
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Okay.

1075
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Well, again, this is all something.

1076
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
And I think I'm sure there's more of this,

1077
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,000
all the same thing, and then I don't know if the other two people saw it,

1078
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,000
they saw it much earlier.

1079
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Okay.

1080
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,000
Now, we find this real interesting because we had a rash of reports

1081
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,000
out of the Los Angeles and Orange County area around 330.

1082
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
And then there was another very large object,

1083
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,000
which was seen going southwest and northeast up around Colusa,

1084
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,000
about 330.

1085
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Well, I'll tell you the thing, a guy who's been running, we beat it up.

1086
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,000
It was, it was obviously, you know, I'm getting some of these,

1087
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,000
jet aircraft and, oh, a vapor shell,

1088
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
and they don't strike my pants at all.

1089
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,000
This is the thing that caught us was the fact that it was either

1090
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,000
that vapor shell we were looking at was stationary.

1091
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Yes.

1092
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,000
It went over straight up and then headed south

1093
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,000
at about a 45-degree angle up and out of our sight.

1094
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
And it's peculiar to any type of jet aircraft I've ever seen.

1095
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,000
And now I don't know if that's another indication.

1096
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,000
I've never seen a black, a black vapor drill.

1097
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000
I don't know if that was due to, we just thought the sun rise

1098
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,000
and then it was, the sun was hitting the funny,

1099
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,000
making it a funny light or something.

1100
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
You want to talk to my partner now?

1101
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000
He's here to talk to him.

1102
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000
He's the one that's the awesome product.

1103
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Okay, fine.

1104
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
He saw the lights that I didn't see.

1105
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Okay.

1106
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Hello.

1107
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Yes, sir.

1108
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Yeah, we have four reporting center in Washington.

1109
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
We'd like to get a description of what you saw in the sky this morning.

1110
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Oh.

1111
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,000
Oh, okay.

1112
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000
I see two lights.

1113
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
One was a little bit higher than the other one.

1114
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000
They're kind of 45-degree angle.

1115
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Uh-huh.

1116
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
I only seen them for about a second.

1117
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Then, yeah, after I heard the report of lights in each.

1118
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Okay, when I looked over, I seen the two lights.

1119
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,000
They flipped off.

1120
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Now, it was just about 35-30 just before sunrise.

1121
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,000
I got on my binoculars and I looked in that direction and I'd seen them.

1122
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
It looked like it was almost straight up and down.

1123
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Oh, dark brown and almost black.

1124
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000
It might have been a vapor trail.

1125
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Yes.

1126
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Okay, it just remained in that position off the horizon for,

1127
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
oh, approximately three or four minutes.

1128
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,000
And I got out of the tow car, took a look at it.

1129
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
I could, I remember about where it was at.

1130
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
I could barely see it with an A-cadi.

1131
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000
So I reached in and got the binoculars.

1132
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,000
As I was coming back out, I could still see it.

1133
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:17,000
And it started to, it was moving closer to the web towards us.

1134
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:23,000
And this time, it looked like one of these small airplanes

1135
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,000
was pulling one of these little flags behind them.

1136
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
The advertising better.

1137
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,000
Uh-huh.

1138
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,000
But with the binoculars, you look like it was black vapor trail that wasn't moving.

1139
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
I mean, the object wasn't moving at all.

1140
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Yes.

1141
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:48,000
It moved up off the horizon up, I'd say maybe 30 degrees.

1142
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,000
And it just remained in that one position at a 45-degree angle.

1143
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,000
I couldn't see anything at the head of it at the beginning of what looked like the vapor trail.

1144
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,000
It was still black.

1145
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
We walked it for approximately five minutes.

1146
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,000
And after that, the vapor trail started turning into a cloud,

1147
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000
sort of a blueish-green colored cloud that remained until the sun came up

1148
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,000
and it started fading away and we could barely see it until the time we came in.

1149
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Okay.

1150
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,000
But how long would you say the entire duration of that setting took?

1151
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
Well, I mean up until the cloud dissipated.

1152
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
Right.

1153
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:30,000
I'd say we got to call maybe about 5.15, about a quarter of an hour after 5, we've seen it.

1154
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,000
And it's 6, so about 10 after 6, we started getting in.

1155
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Okay.

1156
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,000
And the cloud was almost gone by then.

1157
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:43,000
We could still see it, but it looked more like a cloud, a regular cloud than anything else at the end of it.

1158
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,000
Right, okay.

1159
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Was there quite a bit of radio chatter on this stuff that was seen in the sky?

1160
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
That we did?

1161
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Well, I mean, throughout the area, yes.

1162
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Were there a lot of other cars that were observing these things?

1163
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Yeah, we had six officers that actually seen the light.

1164
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,000
Now, the other cars did not see the vapor trail or what we'd seen.

1165
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Uh-huh.

1166
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:11,000
It was all in the same direction, but they didn't see the vapor formation that we could see.

1167
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
I don't know, there was a position or not.

1168
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:19,000
We were at South Park of the County and they were either the middle of the county or further north.

1169
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Yes.

1170
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Okay, well, we sure appreciate your talking to us.

1171
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,000
All right.

1172
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,000
And if we get any information on this, why don't we get back to you, people, and let you know about it.

1173
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Well, I appreciate it.

1174
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Thank you very much.

1175
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
I figured out what it was.

1176
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Right.

1177
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Okay.

1178
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Bye.